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Touval Lysander Zero Wine 546	Posted - 2012.10.31 06:16:00 - [1] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Yes its the gankers fault the freighter pilots are undocking with 20+ billion in their holds... I love this line of reasoning. I laugh everytime I see it. It's used often so I get to laugh a lot. Dude, your beautiful ship! What happened??! I was there. "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Touval Lysander Zero Wine 546	Posted - 2012.10.31 06:18:00 - [2] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: The next thing people will be screaming for is the ability to "fax" stuff across the universe with zero risk, Jump freighters. Quote: I was going to say the automated gathering of ISK and materials while never playing the game, but that's already happening. Tech moons. Just bumping the thread along man... Not trying to kill it or anything. "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Touval Lysander Zero Wine 555	Posted - 2012.10.31 19:44:00 - [3] - Quote Lilly Tiger wrote: I was actually following and posting in that thread you mentioned, and have been writing similar threads myself in the past. The reason he asked for it locked might have been that insistent guy always posting angry retorts and hiding behind "im in character!" and reiterating the same arguments over and over again? I'm comfortable with this. Because I did. Deliberately. Do me a favour and look at the OP in that topic. Then look at his last post before he asked it to be locked. Then tell me how he fast he educated himself about lack of forum censorship. Carry on. "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Touval Lysander Zero Wine 558	Posted - 2012.10.31 20:26:00 - [4] - Quote BoSau Hotim wrote: Annoyance on the forums comes from posts like that. Suggestions that this not be a pvp game belongs on the suggestion forums IMO. Heard someone the other day on an eve TS channel complaining he had no-one else to talk to. Asked why, he was playing X3. "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Touval Lysander Zero Wine 564	Posted - 2012.11.01 19:45:00 - [5] - Quote Tippia wrote: SoGÇª when will highsec GÇ£PvE pilotsGÇ¥ back off from interfering with GÇ£PvP pilots?GÇ¥ Oh, and OP: the market is the most vicious PvP arena in the game. You used THAT word "arena". It's over!!! "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Touval Lysander Zero Wine 578	Posted - 2012.11.02 05:09:00 - [6] - Quote Lord Calus wrote: I only hate those groups when the start to whine that 0.0 has it better than they do, and how we need to be nerfed. Ive said it several times, if the opportunities of Sov 0.0 even MATCHED what empire had I would never go to high-sec again. Sadly I have to go to 4-4 several times per week to buy ships, mods, skill books, ammo, etc. because they cannot, due to game mechanics failures, be locally produced where I live. Actually that is a lie, I would still go to high-sec, but I would go for entirely different reasons. I would just be less bitter about the constant flow of BAW coming from empire people. The grass is always greener I guess. What happened to Loquitor and the web app where you can just order, pay and it's all delivered to the station of your choice? That's what MOST of FA used to do.... Or you can "travel" (boing) to Jita for - what did you say - SEVERAL times a week.... Wo hoo. Me thinks that's a PLANNING problem not a "destroy highsec and make my life in 0.0 easier" decree. Yet another CFC - "CCP nerf highsec because I am a [penny pincher] [lazy] [bad at planning] player" post. Quote: they cannot, due to game mechanics failures, be locally produced where I live Lies. They can be produced. Apparently it's easier and cheaper to import - and yet, if they're not available then SOMEBODY is telling big fat boo-boos. Me thinx you guys need to get your stories straight. "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Touval Lysander Zero Wine 578	Posted - 2012.11.02 22:05:00 - [7] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Arcosian wrote: Null sec is perfectly capable of producing ships and modules there's just no one around to do it on a large enough scale. I think the main problems are most null alliances don't have a decent sized indy wing and even if they did nullsec isn't indy friendly. Why you might ask? We dont have nearly enough slots in our stations for industry. I would be building stuff out there right now but its far far cheaper to build it all in empire and just ship it out. I asked about the number of 0.0 indy slots as a question only yesterday to a fellow Goon. "Will it fix your 0.0 indy problems and stop you whining" I asked. "No" was the reply, "we also want manufacturing in the supermarket called highsec to be so expensive that people will come to my cornerstore and buy my stuff at extreme prices"... I have not seen a response to my statement that "0.0 is in fact asking for state sponsored protectionism". Slots apprently is not the problem, it's a problem (which I concede). Make what you will. "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Touval Lysander Zero Wine 578	Posted - 2012.11.02 22:07:00 - [8] - Quote Natsett Amuinn wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: I see this same thing also from nullsec when telling lies about how the removal of local will make it deserted. I trespass in nullsec, it's already deserted. . You can't be that dense. Hur der, null sec deserted, remove local. Because that will make it not deserted, obviously. Good point. But we won't know "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Touval Lysander Zero Wine 578	Posted - 2012.11.02 22:42:00 - [9] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Touval Lysander wrote: Good point. But we won't know If only we had an area of space with no local and CCP ran the pvp loss rate of ships over a long span of time. Good idea. What shall we call these spaces with no local? "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Touval Lysander Zero Wine 578	Posted - 2012.11.03 00:19:00 - [10] - Quote Natsett Amuinn wrote: Touval Lysander wrote: I asked about the number of 0.0 indy slots as a question only yesterday to a fellow Goon. "Will it fix your 0.0 indy problems and stop you whining" I asked. "No" was the reply, "we also want manufacturing in the supermarket called highsec to be so expensive that people will come to my cornerstore and buy my stuff at extreme prices"... I have not seen a response to my statement that "0.0 is in fact asking for state sponsored protectionism". Slots apprently is not the problem, it's a problem (which I concede). Make what you will. Don't do that. You're refering specifically to me, and that's not even close to what I said. In otherwords, you're a ***** liar. And I really don't appreciate you taking something I said and twisting it to support your arguement. You demanded that you must be able to sell low volume at higher prices and the only way you can do this is to have CCP prevent highsec from being able to sell more product at high volumes. To create - QUOTE - margin. As I said - QUOTE - "asking for state sponsored protectionism". The question arose when I very specifically asked if slots would fix your problems. You answered NO with THAT response. Where's the lie? EDIT - relevant part underlined Touval Lysander wrote: CCP, tomorrow morning, in their infinite wisdom, cascade to your forum whines like they so obviously did for carebears and give you 10,000 x 0.0 station slots with no escalating penalty for use. The cost to use is set by alliance. Natsett Amuinn wrote: Numbers. You don't sell in bulk at near production levels in null, you sell lower volume with higher margins. Those higher margins make it better to import. The gap in margins needs to be closed some. The only way that will happen is if it costs more to produce in high sec. Touval Lysander wrote:** You want people to be charged way above cost price at the supermarket so your corner store can gouge the customers for better margin. What you desire is state sponsored protectionism. "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."

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